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Posted by: Donna Florio, April 13, 2009


IMG_0201 Friends, I'm coming out of the cellar and exposing my dark secret to all of you: I like box wines.  I've been a fan of these practical affordable beverages for a while, and have been gradually tasting various brands (it takes a while to drink a whole cask, so it's slow going).  Here's what changed my perspective: I drink a glass or less at a time (medicinal of course), and after a few days of being open, the bottles were undrinkable. Down the drain they went.  Ever mindful of my budget, I reckoned I could save $50 a month or so if I switched to the box. But how to persuade my foodie friends  to give these just-right-for-weeknight-friendly wines a chance?

I settled on a wine tasting.  Nothing fancy, just 4 varieties--Pinot Grigio, Chardonnay, Merlot, and Cabernet-Shiraz blend. We'd compare a bottle of each  varietal to 1 or 2 boxes.  All the bottles would be $10 or less, something you'd drink on a weeknight.  The tasting would be totally blind.  It was also down and dirty, using small numbered paper cups.

As with food, wine tasting is very subjective.  Some descriptors can also be very specific.  (I won't name the sample that was described as smelling like the iron drops you give to infants.)  IMG_0200

Here's what we tested:
Pinot Grigio--Pepperwood Grove (bottle) was the favorite, though some of us preferred Wine Cube (Target Brand).  A couple of people liked Fish-Eye, though our resident wine expert, Scott Jones, and others found it too acidic.

Chardonnay- We all agreed we'd buy Black Box Chardonnay. We also liked Boho Vineyards Chardonnay (box), but it doesn't scream "Chardonnay."   The bottle, Hogue, was our least favorite.

Merlot--We liked both, but most preferred Bota Box over the bottle, Ravenswood. Both had good balance.  The Ravenswood was full-bodied, but Bota had an acidity we thought would make it a good choice with food.

Cabernet-Shiraz blend--This was our least favorite category.  We preferred Wine Cube over Jacob's Creek (bottle), but just barely.  I think next time we'll look at straight Cabernet or Shiraz and hope for better results.

**Our best-in-show was Black Box Chardonnay.**  It retails for about $20 at Wal-Mart, a couple of dollars more at other groceries.  It contains 4 bottles of wine, so you're paying only $5 or so a bottle, and wasting very little--though even casks change flavor after 6 weeks or so.  But all in all a tremendous bargain for singles or couples who are light drinkers. 


I'd still like to find another red that suits my taste.  Any suggestions?


 



Comments

Donna,

I loved this information! I had steered away from boxed wines so this is great to know! Thanks, Alison

Posted by:Alison Lewis | 04/14/2009 at 07:54 AM

Thanks for the great tips! I've always preferred the taste of "economy" wines over the expensive ones anyway, but have never ventured into boxed wines. I will definitely try the ones you recommended!

Posted by:leewil40 | 04/14/2009 at 07:59 AM

Great idea to do a blind tasting! I have friends who swear by box wines--I should give these a try soon.

Posted by:Lisa (dinner party) | 04/14/2009 at 08:04 AM

Cool, Donna! My budget and recycling bin thank you. I'm totally taking this information to the grocery store after work.

Posted by:Stephanie | 04/14/2009 at 08:08 AM

Love to find new cheap ways to find good wines. Especially, wines that will last a slower paced drinker. Great information and very helpful article! Makes me want to read the blog more than I already do.

Posted by:Aimee | 04/14/2009 at 08:28 AM

I hadn't ventured into the box wines to date. However, I trust Southern Living's advice, so I'll try that Black Box Chardonnay. It would be great to save some money and still have a satisfactory wine!

Posted by:MBSCooks | 04/14/2009 at 08:38 AM

Great idea, I've been having the same problem. One or two glasses and that's it for the bottle. I like a red, lately Malbec, that's not too jolting to the palate, especially when it's just for sipping. I'll try some boxes and report back!

Posted by:Lilla Folsom | 04/14/2009 at 08:42 AM

Box wine drinkers of the world unite!

I've been trying a number of box wines as well and I've come up with a way to fool my snobby friends into thinking they are drinking something expensive. I just fill two decanters with wine before they come over and tell them I decanted it to give it a chance to "open up." They buy it hook, line and sinker!

That's when I pull out the box.

Posted by:James Schend | 04/14/2009 at 08:56 AM

James, I like your style! And you definitely know a good bottle, err, box when you taste it. I'm going to try that trick soon.

Posted by:Donna | 04/14/2009 at 09:00 AM

Hightly regarded wines with screw tops have definitely paved the way for thinking inside the box....

Posted by:Denise | 04/14/2009 at 09:34 AM

Oops, that should be "highly"...

(This blog got me so excited that I couldn't "contain" myself!)

Posted by:Denise | 04/14/2009 at 09:34 AM

Highly regarded wines with screw tops have definitely paved the way for thinking inside the box.....

Posted by:Denise | 04/14/2009 at 09:35 AM

I, too, have ventured into the box. I've tried Target brands and will have to look at the ones you're suggesting. Since I never shop at Walmart, I'll pay the few extra bucks and thank myself later when Walmart isn't the only wine distributor in town! Thanks for the research. I appreciate your downing wine on behalf of the rest of us.

Posted by:Mopsy Gascon | 04/14/2009 at 10:01 AM

Hi Donna, I remember when I used to sneer at boxed wines at SEWE events. Was I just being a snob?? Thanks for the good info, Sheila

Posted by:Sheila Johnston | 04/14/2009 at 12:25 PM

Great idea to do a mini taste panel on the wines. Very interesting and surprising results!
Kathy Childers

Posted by:Kathleen Childers | 04/14/2009 at 12:48 PM

Thanks, Donna, for the info. We drink a few glasses a night and usually have a favorite inexpensive "house red" for everyday meals and save the more expensive wines for special dishes. I love the idea of a house wine that costs less than $10 a bottle and keeps well.

Posted by:Avery Hurt | 04/14/2009 at 02:18 PM

Donna, you just gave me some great options . . . thanks.

Posted by:Valeriej | 04/14/2009 at 05:41 PM

Hi Donna,

Great info! We're going to collect all of our ever so slightly snobby Charlestonian foodie friends and do a blind tasting. I can't wait. I'll post the details and the results.

Lauri H.

Posted by:Lauri H. | 04/14/2009 at 06:11 PM

Dear Donna,
I am a big wine box fan but I'm not a wine connoisseur. If it tastes good to me, I'll drink it. Boxes are convenient, the wine doesn't "go bad" if not drunk immediately, and the little spigots keep cat hair out of the box. Is that a plus or what?

Posted by:Joberta | 04/15/2009 at 07:32 AM

Using box wine is a great idea for a party. However, if I'm too embarassed to serve it as is, I wonder how long it would take to drain the box into a carafe?

Posted by:Jesalyn | 04/15/2009 at 07:34 AM

It only takes a few seconds to "pour" a serving, so I'm thinking only a few minutes to empty the cask into a couple of decanters. See James's post--apparently he does it often.

Posted by:Donna Florio | 04/15/2009 at 07:40 AM

Hi Donna-
Not really a wine-in-box-cask, but Yellow+Blue Malbec is a full liter in a lightweight box and at $12 is a bargain. Tried it this weekend. Tasty, but simple. Cap screws on tighter than a cork, but not airtight like a cask/box.

Posted by:Atticus Rominger | 04/15/2009 at 10:13 AM

Thanks. I saw that in my local gourmet store the other day, and will give it a try.

Posted by:Donna Florio | 04/15/2009 at 10:16 AM

Great post - I've definitely going to try out that Black Box Chardonnay soon!

Posted by:Mallory | 04/15/2009 at 12:44 PM

Haven't had any box wine in a few years, but will definitely revisit the situation. I seem to recall Bulletin Place was once available in a box. The bottles used to run around $7, but have escalated to the $12 range as a good "everyday" wine. This is the wine B'ham fave caterer Kathy G serves at her soirees.

Posted by:barbecutie | 04/15/2009 at 01:19 PM

If a box wine is good enough for a Southern Living Senior Food Writer it is good enough for me! I just want to know how to get involved in the tastings! As I am more a fan of red wine, please update your future research on those!

Posted by:Tara | 04/15/2009 at 01:58 PM

Black Box offers the working poor a drinkable house wine...for times when I can not quite raise the funds for Rumpole's Chateau Thames Embankment or other more 'select' wines...Black Box allows us to forget why we are really pissed off... affordable and an agreeable buzz.

Posted by:Ingram | 04/15/2009 at 02:55 PM

My husband drinks boxed Chianti all the time. He loves it!!!

Posted by:Debbie | 04/15/2009 at 03:34 PM

How long does wine in a box last before going bad?

Posted by:Melissa | 04/16/2009 at 04:36 AM

I have some red suggestions! You can find more about wines available boxed at www.aboutboxedwine.com.

Posted by:Katie | 04/16/2009 at 07:05 AM

I can't say for sure, but after about a month or 6 weeks I start to notice a change in flavor. We compared the wine cube pinot grigio we tested to one I'd had at home in the fridge for about 5 weeks, and there was a distinct difference in taste and aroma.

Posted by:Donna Florio | 04/16/2009 at 07:12 AM

Melissa- Boxed wines stay fresh for four to six weeks after opening. The beauty of boxed wine packaging is that the bag inside collapses around the wine. Because of this package design the wine is protect from oxygen exposure, thus allowing boxed wines to stay fresher longer.

Posted by:Katie | 04/16/2009 at 07:19 AM

Thanks for the referral to your site, Katie--it has great info. Sadly, most of these wines are not available in Birmingham, and Alabama is a state that you can't ship wine into for personal use. (It's a drag.) I've read of quite a few other brands that sound terrific. Guess we'll just have to wait till they start showing up here.

Posted by:Donna Florio | 04/16/2009 at 07:24 AM

But how do you know when you've had too much?

Posted by:Jen | 04/16/2009 at 02:38 PM

Ok so box variety is deffinately the economical solution.Could someone suggest a wine for a beginner wine taster ,whose wine until now has been nothing more than maybe an over~sweetened ice tea.

Posted by:kimberly | 04/20/2009 at 04:45 PM

Thank you for the information. I've found box wines to be fine additions...and James, I like your style!

Posted by:Mari' | 04/21/2009 at 06:40 AM

For me, box wines are a great way to go "green" and save the glass. The taste is
there and it doesn't spoil for some time.
I think it is just another example of technology providing yet another way to
enjoy the things we all love in creative
packaging!

Posted by:John Vanover | 04/21/2009 at 08:03 AM

I've been a box girl for quite awhile and yes, I've used James' trick quite often (sometimes I tell and other times I don't!). I actually quite like Almaden Cab. Give it try. And Katie, thanks for the link!

Posted by:Alice | 04/21/2009 at 12:16 PM

This is for Kimberly: If you can find Almaden Blush Chablis where you live,(I'm in Connecticut and we get ours in New Hampshire also) try the 2.5 liter box. It is a good drinking wine and when you need a splash of wine in cooking, it works well also. And yes, I have found that buying the 5 liter box is too much at times, the 2.5 liter is better. I'm a 2 glass of wine aday girl, but sometimes the wine goes "flat" before I can finish it. Then it's into my vinegar "mother" and I have a new batch of wine vinegar in a few days. Also, don't be afraid to try bottle wines with screw caps. When I was in Germany last year visiting my daughter, we bought just about every thing in screw caps and they were terrific. They don't last as long as corked bottles though. Good luck

Posted by:Ricki Soucy | 04/21/2009 at 02:10 PM

Thanks Ricki,I will look for it,hopefully TN has some.
I have always wanted to go to Connecticut ,well all over New England.Hopefully next year we will cruise that way.

Posted by:kimberly | 04/23/2009 at 10:41 AM

Box wines are convenient but as a wine retailer, I am concerned about long-term exposure of wine to the inner plastic lining just as we now are learning about plastic in canned foods, baby bottles, etc. And regarding screw caps, Master of Wine Jancis Robinson is already noting that these bottles seem not to last. If you consume small quantities, go to a wine shop and ask them to get half-bottles for you. You'll be drinking decent wines and supporting smaller winemakers and vineyards, not mass production liquor companies who don't invest in "green" winemaking. You do not have to spend a lot of $$$ - try Portugese wines, which right now are widely available and well-made. And always re-cork your leftover bottles. Cheers!

Posted by:Cindie | 04/24/2009 at 09:41 AM

We have found a great taste in Corbett Canyon boxed wine. Both their Chardonnay and Merlot compare to lots of other bottles as superior. These are our favorites. The boxes of white wine fit so nicely in the refrigerator and taste good and cold. However, the price recently went from 9.99 to 11.49. Bummer!

Posted by:Kay | 05/02/2009 at 04:43 PM
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